Local Bounti Corporation (Ticker: LOCL) discussed its third-quarter financial performance and future strategies during its earnings call. CEO Craig Hurlbert and CFO Kathleen Valiasek reported a 50% year-over-year increase in sales, reaching $10.2 million, though this fell below expectations.
The company's strategic shift towards high-value specialty products, such as Arugula and Spinach, has postponed the achievement of positive adjusted EBITDA to the second quarter of 2025. Despite this, Local Bounti has seen improved operational efficiency and expanded its customer base, which includes over 180 Brookshire Grocery locations and agreements with Sam's Club.
Key Takeaways
- Local Bounti reported a 50% increase in sales year-over-year, totaling $10.2 million.
- The company's adjusted gross margin improved to 32%.
- The transition of the Montana facility to commercial production is complete, contributing to improved performance.
- Q4 2024 revenues are expected to be around $11 million, a 67% year-over-year increase.
- Local Bounti plans to maintain disciplined capital allocation and engage in discussions to optimize its capital structure.
- The company reported a non-cash expense of $2.9 million and aims to achieve positive adjusted EBITDA by Q2 2025.
- Management emphasized a customer-driven approach and the potential for easier capital acquisition as operations scale.
Company Outlook
- Expected fourth-quarter revenues of approximately $11 million, reflecting a 67% year-over-year increase.
- Positive adjusted EBITDA is now projected for the second quarter of 2025.
- Ongoing discussions with potential capital partners to secure financing after solidifying customer needs and facility designs.
- The Midwest expansion is under consideration, with potential changes in facility size and configuration based on customer demand.
Bearish Highlights
- Delayed timeline for achieving positive adjusted EBITDA due to strategic reconfiguration of growing plans.
- The company's sales fell short of expectations due to the shift toward higher-value specialty products.
Bullish Highlights
- Expanded customer base with over 180 Brookshire Grocery locations and agreements with Sam's Club.
- Completed transition of the Montana facility to commercial production.
- Operational efficiencies and product optimization efforts led to an improved adjusted gross margin.
Misses
- Sales did not meet expectations, partially influenced by the strategic shift in product offerings.
Q&A Highlights
- Management discussed the importance of deepening customer relationships and enhancing operational excellence.
- The company is shifting away from previous CCLs based on customer feedback and aims for builds to be sold out before breaking ground.
- Executives highlighted the evolving landscape of customer engagement in the CEA sector and expect an easier path to raising capital this year.
Local Bounti is navigating a period of strategic transition, focusing on customer demand and operational efficiency to drive future growth. The company's leadership remains optimistic about its prospects and the potential for easier capital acquisition as it prepares to scale operations. With a disciplined approach to capital allocation and a customer-driven strategy, Local Bounti continues to adapt to the evolving market and looks forward to updating stakeholders in the coming quarters.
InvestingPro Insights
Local Bounti Corporation's (LOCL) recent earnings call revealed a company in transition, with promising revenue growth but ongoing financial challenges. According to InvestingPro data, the company's revenue growth remains strong, with a 31.46% increase in the most recent quarter. This aligns with the reported 50% year-over-year sales increase mentioned in the earnings call.
However, the company's financial health presents some concerns. An InvestingPro Tip indicates that Local Bounti "operates with a significant debt burden" and "may have trouble making interest payments on debt." This could explain the company's focus on disciplined capital allocation and ongoing discussions to optimize its capital structure, as mentioned in the earnings call.
Another InvestingPro Tip suggests that the company is "quickly burning through cash," which is consistent with the delayed timeline for achieving positive adjusted EBITDA. The company's operating income margin stands at a concerning -202.96% for the last twelve months, reflecting the significant challenges in achieving profitability.
Despite these challenges, analysts anticipate sales growth in the current year, as noted in an InvestingPro Tip. This aligns with management's projection of a 67% year-over-year increase in Q4 2024 revenues.
For investors seeking a more comprehensive analysis, InvestingPro offers 14 additional tips for Local Bounti, providing a deeper understanding of the company's financial position and market performance.
Full transcript - Local Bounti Corp (LOCL) Q3 2024:
Operator: Good morning, and welcome to Local Bounti's Third Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in a listen-only mode. After today's presentation, there will an opportunity to ask questions. Please note, today's event is being recorded. At this time, I'd like to turn the call over to Jeff Sonnek, Investor Relations at ICR. Please go ahead.
Jeff Sonnek: Thank you, and good morning. Today's presentation will be hosted by Local Bounti's Chief Executive Officer, Craig Hurlbert; and President and Chief Financial Officer, Kathleen Valiasek. The comments made during today's call contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. All statements other than statements of historical facts are considered forward-looking statements. These statements are based on management's current expectations and beliefs as well as a number of assumptions concerning future events. Such forward-looking statements are subject to known and unknown risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from the results discussed in the forward-looking statements. Some of these risks and uncertainties are identified and discussed in the company's filings with the SEC. We'll also refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures today. Please refer to the press release, which can be found on our Investor Relations website investors.localbounti.com for reconciliations of non-GAAP financial measures to their most directly comparable GAAP measures. And with that, I'd now like to turn the call over to Craig. Craig?
Craig Hurlbert: Thank you, Jeff, and good morning, everyone. In the third quarter, we delivered sales of $10.2 million, an increase of approximately 50% year-over-year. However, these results fell short of our expectations but this was for good reason, which I'll describe in a moment. With our expanded scale forwarded to us with the completion of our new facilities and growing customer reach, we've been particularly active with customer engagement to determine how we can work together to optimize our capacity to meet specific retailer demand. During the third quarter, we made the strategic decision to reconfigure our growing plans to align with current customer preferences. More specifically, we are seeing heightened demand for our specialty products, such as Arugula and Spinach, among others, and are reworking our growing mix to meet this demand. Although we are continuing to grow our living lettuce product at the Texas facility, we are working on implementing plans to broaden our capabilities in this section of the facility to meet the demand from customers for our new higher-value products. This dynamic caused a shortfall relative to our anticipated ramp in the third quarter and shifted our expected timeline for achieving positive adjusted EBITDA into the second quarter of 2025. However, we continue to believe this evolution positions us to deliver improved performance over the long-term by focusing on high velocity, higher value products that our customers are looking for. These learnings have led us to adopt a more measured approach to our next phase of expansion, ensuring that each investment decision aligns with specific customer demand and distribution strategies. Our ongoing philosophy of driving capital efficiency is evident in how we're optimizing capacity utilization across our existing network. Our Washington facilities, is serving growing demand in the Pacific Northwest with a targeted product mix that matches regional preferences, while our Montana facility has completed its transition from R&D to commercial production. Though Montana's contribution to its third quarter results was modest as we established the right commercial processes with the introduction of basil production, the facility is now fully oriented toward commercial operations and is contributing to improved performance starting in the fourth quarter. Despite these temporary impacts, we are pleased with our adjusted gross margin performance, which reached 32% in the third quarter. This improvement reflects our continued focus on driving operational efficiency and combined with our product optimization efforts supports our margin expansion trajectory and broader efforts to achieve positive cash flow. The successful execution of our product portfolio expansion was another key highlight in the third quarter. Our new high-velocity offerings have generated significant customer interest, particularly our Arugula and Spinach lines, which began shipping to customers toward the end of the third quarter. These new product lines have been exceptionally well received by customers, validating our strategy of shifting our product mix to drive growth and value, which ultimately drives our efforts to generate superior unit economics. Our commercial relationships also continue to strengthen and expand. Year-to-date, we have achieved several significant commercial milestones. We're shipping to more than 180 Brookshire Grocery Company locations from our Mount Pleasant Texas facility, with their stores carrying our full line of produce products across three states. We are fulfilling our agreement with Sam's Club, where we are shipping to the regional distribution centers from both our Georgia and Texas facilities. We are also having great success expanding our presence in the Pacific Northwest with a large national grocer and mass retailer in the third quarter, both of which are selling all of our new SKUs. Our Grab-and-Go Salad Kits program also continues to expand, most recently with the retailer H-E-B. And we've recently signed a new customer agreement where we will be utilizing all of our newer facilities to fulfill orders. Additionally, we believe recent industry developments have reinforced the value proposition of our controlled environment approach. As traditional outdoor agriculture continues to face food safety challenges, resulting in costly recalls and supply disruption, our ability to provide consistently safe, high-quality produce becomes increasingly important to our retail partners. This advantage, combined with our operational improvements and strategic initiatives, further strengthens our competitive positioning in the market. In closing, we are committed to executing our next phase of growth with a sharper focus on aligning production capabilities with verified customer demand, positioning Local Bounti to deliver sustainable, profitable growth. While this calibration and strategy shifts our timeline for achieving positive adjusted EBITDA out to the second quarter of 2025. We are confident that our disciplined approach to capital allocation and operational excellence will create meaningful long-term value for our stakeholders. With that, I will now turn the call over to Kathy.
Kathleen Valiasek: Thank you, Craig. I'd like to start by updating you on our strategic initiatives related to how we are thinking about our next phase of growth. As you heard from Craig, we're taking a deliberate approach to further optimize our operations to maximize revenue-generating potential in a capital-efficient manner. This has been our core strategy since starting the company and is central to our Stack & Flow model. We have taken a huge leap forward this year. We simultaneously opened two new facilities in Washington and Texas. We completed our Georgia build-out and transitioned Montana to commercial operations. We also introduced several new products and are working on scaling up their production to meet demand. This was an incredible lift by our entire team, and I want to recognize their contributions and thank them in what was a very dynamic period for our business and the industry. With these broader milestones accomplished, our team is taking the time to further advance our operational efficiencies, which goes hand-in-hand with our facility network optimization exercise. We have a clear focus on aligning capacity with specific customer demand similar to the offtake agreement we established with Sam's Club. Moreover, as we ramp up our production of new products, there are also new considerations in terms of how best to utilize our capacity to meet customer demand for new products. These are good problems for us but it is requiring us to slow down and ensure we are working closely with our retail partners to make the right long-term decision to optimize each facility for specific products that align with customer distribution plans. In other words, we are looking to maximize synergies across our growing footprint and customer network to drive our performance, accelerate our ability to generate positive cash flow and ultimately improve our capital structure to attract long-term shareholders. This strategic approach to capacity expansion planning is exemplified in our design for our Midwestern market entry. We're working closely with our retail partners to ensure each facility's capabilities are tailored to specific products that complement their regional distribution networks. This is particularly important as we roll out our broader SKU assortment, which continues to generate strong interest from both new and existing customers. This collaborative approach strengthens our market position while reinforcing our commitment to delivering fresh, high-quality produce through sustainable tech-enabled farming practices. As we evaluate a variety of financing arrangements with existing and potential new partners, we've adopted a more patient approach to ensure that we are making the time for these important strategic discussions with our customers. In line with this approach, we have decided not to move forward at this time with closing the transactions contemplated by the previously disclosed conditional commitment letters with a commercial finance lender while we undertake this evaluation to best position the company for long-term success. These agreements had time bound elements to them that would compromise our efforts to drive capital efficiency in the short run and resulting in immediate interest expense burden that we believe is premature relative to our other goals associated with optimizing our growing network. We remain actively engaged with multiple financing partners to support our strategic initiatives while ensuring we have the flexibility to execute on our near-term objectives. Now shifting to our third quarter results. Third quarter 2024 sales increased 50% to $10.2 million as compared to $6.8 million in the prior year and increased 9% compared to $9.4 million in the second quarter of 2024. Our results largely reflected the increased production and growth in sales from our Georgia, Washington and Texas facilities and, to a lesser degree, sales from our Montana facility following its transition. Due to the decision to realign our production mix to meet demand from our growing customer base and optimize our margin opportunity with differentiated products, our fulfillment of Texas production wasn't fully optimized. Thus resulting in revenue contribution that was lower than expected. While this project is underway, we don't anticipate achieving optimized run rates in Texas until early in the second quarter of 2025. Third quarter adjusted gross margin, excluding depreciation and stock-based comp, was approximately 32%. While our adjusted gross margin performance continues to reflect costs associated with the ongoing optimization and scaling up of our growing facilities we were pleased to see a 300 basis point sequential improvement in margins from second quarter to third quarter. And I'd also note that we expect to see additional margin improvement in the coming quarters as a result of the mix optimization strategy we talked about today. Adjusted SG&A for the third quarter was $7.5 million. Our adjusted figures remove the influence of stock-based comp, depreciation and amortization and other nonrecurring costs. While we expect to continue to benefit from the cost-saving actions and the resulting lower cost base through the end of this fiscal year, in the third quarter, we observed higher insurance costs that we are working to mitigate. Further, I'd note that we have our transportation and logistics expenses located within SG&A. So as we grow, you can expect to see higher SG&A dollars related to these costs, which we believe will be a source of operating leverage that we can realize longer term as our business scales and we drive efficiencies and realize synergies. R&D expense was $7.1 million in the third quarter, which increased $2.1 million from the prior year period. However, included in these amounts is non-cash depreciation and stock-comp of $2.9 million in the current year period and $1.1 million in the prior year period. So on a cash basis, our R&D spend is up a modest $0.2 million year-over-year. While we've been working hard to reduce our R&D spend with the commercial transition at our Montana facility, this was partially offset by higher R&D spend associated with our scale-up of the new products across our facility network. As those products ramp and meet our production thresholds, our cash R&D spend associated with their development will conclude and begin to trend down. We expect this dynamic to be visible in our fourth quarter results and support our efforts to achieve positive adjusted EBITDA in the near term. Our year-over-year adjusted EBITDA loss improved by $600,000 to $8.4 million. From a capital structure perspective, as of September 30, 2024, we had cash, cash equivalents and restricted cash in the amount of $6.8 million. Our lender continues to be supportive of our efforts to reach positive adjusted EBITDA and since quarter end has provided an additional $6 million to fund working capital. And as of third quarter end, we had approximately 8.7 million shares outstanding. On a pro forma basis, including warrants and our employees' restricted stock units outstanding, we have a fully diluted share count of approximately 16.1 million shares. Our path forward is clear. We're strengthening our business through smarter operations and maintaining a solid financial foundation. We're in discussions with new and existing financial partners about optimizing our capital structure, including potential sale leaseback arrangements and USDA-backed financing options. All supporting our very clear target of achieving positive adjusted EBITDA in Q2 of 2025. Our current capital position supports both ongoing operations and existing capital projects. And I'd reemphasize that while we are excited about the many growth opportunities we have available, we also want to ensure that we are making the best possible decisions we can in the short run to best position the business as we embark on our next phase of growth. Our aim is to grow alongside our customers and by being strategic with our resources, we're well-positioned to meet growing market demand while simultaneously improving our financial metrics. Every expansion decision we make directly connects to customer needs and our distribution strategy, ensuring sustainable growth. With respect to our expectations for the balance of 2024, we expect to achieve fourth quarter revenues in the range of approximately $11 million, which implies year-over-year growth of approximately 67%. We expect several key drivers to contribute to this growth. First, our Washington and Texas facilities continue to ramp production with Texas expected to ramp further following its optimized product mix. Second, we anticipate meaningful contribution from our expanded assortment of new products supported by new customer resets and strong customer acceptance. Third, our focus on operating efficiency is expected to continue yielding margin improvement. And finally, our Montana facility successful transition to commercial production provides additional capacity to meet growing customer demand. These factors position us well to deliver sequential improvement in both revenue and adjusted EBITDA performance in the fourth quarter. In closing, I really want to recognize our team's efforts and also thank our customers who continue to help us deliver on our mission of bringing locally grown produce to more consumers. We remain extremely focused on our path to positive adjusted EBITDA and look forward to demonstrating progress in the fourth quarter. We couldn't be prouder of our organization. Thank you. That concludes our prepared remarks. Operator, please open the call for questions.
Operator: Thank you. At this time, we will be conducting a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Kristen Owen with Oppenheimer & Company. Please proceed with your question.
Kristen Owen: Hi. Good morning. Thank you for taking the questions.
Craig Hurlbert: Good morning, Kristen.
Kristen Owen: Hey, Craig. Kathy, I wanted to pick up on some of your remarks towards the end of the prepared discussion. And just in terms of how we should think about the drivers of that revenue ramp, whether it's 3Q to 4Q, 4Q into 2025? Is it the ramp in production and throughput? Is it pricing? Is it this new SKU mix from specialty? Just how we should think about the big buckets of that revenue growth ramp?
Kathleen Valiasek: Yes. Yes. Great question. And good morning, Kristen. Good to hear your voice. So I want to just sort of start off a little bit and just level set and just sort of say, let's just take a step back and frame the conversation this morning, right? And some of this iterative of our recorded comments, but just to frame it. So keep in mind, in the last six months, we brought up two new state-of-the-art facilities in Texas and Washington. So now we have three at scale, large stacking full facilities for our customers to buy out of, right? And in the last six months, we scaled the Arugula, Spinach, power blends, et cetera. These are the SKUs that are the holy grail, so to speak, for our customers, right? And who are our customers, almost all big box retailers. Albertsons (NYSE:ACI), Walmart (NYSE:WMT), Sam, Safeway, H-E-B, Amazon (NASDAQ:AMZN), Brookshire, et cetera. All of our customers are already either buying these new SKUs from us or they are sampling and considering buying, right? So these things take time. When we built these facilities, it's just six months ago, even we didn't know that we would be able to scale these amazing SKUs, but we have, right? But what I want to say is these things take a little time, right? So we are already selling these SKUs, these new SKUs out of Washington to Walmart and Albertsons, right? We scale these products in Texas a little bit later than we did in Washington. We scaled them in Q3. And when we scale them, right, we grow them, which takes time, then we ship the samples to the customers. They say they like or they don't like. They make decisions. All these things takes 60 to 90 days. Texas was a little bit later than Washington, right? And so we're starting to sell the new SKUs even in December, but much more so to more customers in Q1, okay? So that's a little bit of what kind of – has been going on. When we built the Texas facility, right, we didn't realize that we were going to have a Arugula all about SKU optimization, right, saving capacity for SKUs that customers value more, right? So Texas again was sort of the later facility to come up. So it's really the decision to save some capacity for those new SKUs in a section of the Texas facility. It's like literally – so the Texas facility is six acres. It's just three that is impacted by the decision to grow these different – the new SKUs.
Craig Hurlbert: Hey. Kristen, I think just one add-on. Kathy said that very well. One other thing to keep in mind is with the SKUs that are very sought after Arugula and Spinach, it also allows us in places where we're not able to sell our current products, maybe our standard products, having those more specialty products allows us to further diversify with those customers that we're not in yet as well. So it gives our foot in the door and allows us to get sticky with those new customers. So it has several different benefits to it. And to Kathy's point, it takes time.
Kathleen Valiasek: Right. And just let me make a couple of further points, right? So I would say the revenue was lower in Q3 than we would have thought. It's largely because of the second three acres that we're going to better – much better utilized than what we had planned, right? Again, it just takes time. And then also, when we – I want to make sure that I get the statement out because I don't think I really elucidated it great in my prepared script. But the EBITDA loss didn't improve as much as we would have thought. And it's largely because we were incurring R&D costs to grow the new SKUs sample in each of the different facilities, right? Because, again, out of – especially out of the three new state-of-the-art facilities, we want to be able to offer all of the SKUs out of each of the facilities with – and so like I said, we're already selling out of Washington in December and then even more so in Q1, we'll be selling out of Texas, Georgia, we're doing Spinach and we will scale Arugula there at a later date.
Kristen Owen: I really appreciate that color. I'm kind of setting up for this next question, which is understanding that there are some temporary choices you have to make for sort of the long run here. Help us understand what are your goals for 2025? I mean, I'm not necessarily looking for revenue guidance or you've already talked about EBITDA timeframe, but just what are the corporate goals for 2025 in the context of this adjustment? How you're thinking about capacity expansion now? Just any additional commentary you can provide there? Thank you.
Kathleen Valiasek: Yes, yes. So obviously, with our existing facilities, we want to get our utilization up as much as we possibly can. We are very much tightening and working on our operational efficiencies, which you saw in this quarter with the increased gross margin. When we think about next year, again, and we said it 20x in the recorded comments, we have to go, I'll say it quickly. We have to go slow to go fast. We have to listen to what our customers are saying because every single thing that they tell us drive the new build, okay? So if they like these new SKUs, which everyone seems to, the new SKUs have a different growth cycle. It's much shorter. And so what does that do? That drives the – how we build the facility. It doesn't change it hugely significantly. It changes the equipment within the facility, but it does change it. So basically, what we're doing is, I want to say, over the next two to three months, listening to what our customers are telling us, so at that – and what it does is it drives our decisions around the expansions and the Midwest facility, right? Because in other words, I don't want to break ground on a Midwestern facility when we have customers that say they want increased even – increased volumes of spring mix right? But then also, who's going to want to buy out of that facility in terms of Arugula, the new SKUs, et cetera, which drives kind of a different process in each of the facilities. And as we've said, Kristen, part of what we're doing also, right, listening to our customers, but also because we're able to broaden our SKU set in this way that likewise means we're able to broaden our relationships with our customers, okay? And what does that mean? It allows us to talk to them about offtake agreements like we have with Sam. And then what does that mean for Local Bounti, it means offtake agreements garner better construction financing as well as sale-leaseback financing, right? And so that's one of the reasons why we backed off from the CCLs that we had talked about in the past because those CCLs required that the funds were to be deployed within a certain timeframe. But I didn't want to close on that financing because we have to listen to what our customers are saying so that the builds are sold out before we break ground, right? That was a lot. I hope...
Craig Hurlbert: Hey. Kristen, goals for 2025 – I think, Kathy, just said a lot there, and I think it was all right on point. Operational excellence, which will show up in margin improvement. When you operate excellently, you get closer to your customers. We just saw what happened to McDonald's (NYSE:MCD) Taylor Farms that whole problem that hit. That's just not going to happen with Local Bounti. So if we can really deliver consistently across a broad mix of products, like we're doing right now and continuing to improve on that and getting the margins up. What that's going to really do is get us even closer and closer to our customers. So that kind of leads to operational excellence, so many great things happen from that. And we have a whole team led by Surjit Gill, our COO. He's doing a great job across our whole platform, really pulling all that together under Kathy's leadership. And what that does, leads to goal number two, is really deepen our relationships with our customers. And I think if anything should fall out of this call, we're in some very solid conversations across all of our customer base now, our current customer base, and new customers around how do we work together more consistently on a longer-term basis to remove a lot of the transactional nature of the produce business that has been the history of the industry. And what that means is having longer-term relationships across a broad SKU level that allows us to deliver well and then to benefit from that, ultimately for their customers to enjoy great product day in and day out. And so those things are going to drive us to EBITDA positivity, we believe, in the second quarter of 2025. And so we're very, very excited about – and the whole team is really laser-focused on that. And it seems like when Kathy and I were kind of putting all this together, we're like it's a little bit different than what we've been saying, but it's a really positive message that it's a customer-driven approach, we're going to help us tighten up our design of our facilities, so we have even more flexibility. And remember, why can Local Bounti grow things that other people can't. We have stack and flow. Some of the products don't have to spend as much time in the greenhouse, et cetera, et cetera. So we're really taking advantage of our technology to get operational excellence and getting closer to our customers in the process.
Kristen Owen: I really appreciate all the color this morning. I will leave it there.
Craig Hurlbert: Kristen, thank you so much.
Kathleen Valiasek: Thanks, Kristen.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Ben Klieve with Lake Street Capital Markets. Please proceed with your questions.
Benjamin Klieve: First one, Kathy, you suggested on your prepared remarks that the Texas facility would hit an optimized run rate, as you said early Q2 2025, wondering where that stands relative to the Georgia and Washington facilities?
Kathleen Valiasek: Yes, sure. So Georgia, is at full capacity full utilization. Washington, is at full utilization this quarter.
Benjamin Klieve: Okay. Great. Thanks. A couple of bigger picture questions then. First, regarding access to growth capital. You noted that you were actively engaged with multiple potential partners, but it would seem to me that those conversations are on more early stage than those you were having with the prior CCL partners. So I'm curious if you can talk about just kind of where you are in those conversations and your degree of comfort that you have what the ability to secure that capital pretty swiftly once you have the conversations with the customers and the site location design, et cetera, solidified? Is that when you think you're going to be able to secure pretty quickly? Or are you pretty early in those conversations with new capital providers?
Kathleen Valiasek: That's such a great question, and thank you for asking it. I am constantly talking to many capital providers, right, we don't talk about it too, too often. There's a capital provider that is providing capital under our existing Cargill facility that bought into the Texas facility, and they are covering that 30%. They are interested in committing much more capital towards the Midwest facility. All of these sale-leaseback companies that I talked to, I have term sheets from all of them. I mean we talked about Q2 that I had a term sheet on the Georgia facility for a sale leaseback. I'm – we're just honestly, we are just waiting again to hear all of the feedback from all the customers because there are certain things that we can't talk about on today's call, we'll be able to update on the Q4 call. We have other large customers that are wanting to come in to each of the facilities, which also kind of drive the size of the expansions. But I'm – if anything, it's easier and faster for me to do the sale-leaseback deals. So several of them want to do the construction on top of doing the sale leaseback, right? And as you know, we have a sale leaseback with store on the California facilities. And they and others, I talked to all the time, and I actually have several term sheets on them. I'm not closing on anything until we hear our customers, and we figure out what size we need the expansions to be as well as the Midwest facility. So great question. I hope that...
Craig Hurlbert: Hey, Ben, it's Craig. Good to hear your voice. One other thing to keep in mind, too, if we just level up at what's happening inside of the industry, the controlled environment agriculture industry. Obviously, we had Bowery here, a couple of weeks ago going down. The customers are really interested in this because they see the way the consumers are reacting to the product. And there's more and more interest and more and more pull for the product. And yet when the customers look at the industry, they're saying, wow, who's going to make it, who's not going to make it, right? So if you keep that in mind – so what we've got is concern around some of the people that aren't making it but yet the customers, there's kind of a pull there for the product. So as we get further into this, what's happening, and I'll just keep it at a very high level, is the customers are figuring out who's who in the zoo, and who's going to be standing, and they're more willing to enter into conversations based on that knowledge. The customers are very, very smart – almost to a customer I'd like to say very high IQ in the CEA space, almost every large customer is studying the space because they're chasing fresh, they're chasing great product, right? So as we kind of emerge here over the next couple of quarters, our conversations are getting deeper with the customers and our ability to raise capital will be easier to Kathy's point because of that. And so we're not – always is a concern, but I think with what we'll be offering at that point and where the business is at that point, knocking on the door of positive EBITDA, I believe you're going to find our path to raising that capital is going to be easier this year than it was last year.
Benjamin Klieve: Okay. That's very helpful and all makes sense. We'll look forward to more updates there in the quarters to come. I have one more question around the expansion of the Midwest. I think it's a fair characterization here that, that's maybe a little bit further out today than it was three months ago. I'm wondering if you could just elaborate a bit on what is the same and what is different about the Midwest expansion? Has the site changed? Has the state changed? Has the size of the facility changed in your mind? The internal configuration of the facility? What's the same and what's different?
Kathleen Valiasek: Yes, yes. So the site is the same. We are – it's honestly, it did take us a little bit of time to find the site. The site we've been narrowed in on the site and working through, finalizing the PSA and starting diligence, et cetera. But the size of the site, okay, is under consideration. And the reason being is a couple of our large customers want – would like a great amount of capacity at that facility. And so we have to make the decision whether or not that works to increase the size of the facility and then how do we design it if we're going to increase for that much more capacity? And then additionally, Arugula, Spinach, all these other SKUs drive a faster turn. There's more turns of the farm with those SKUs. And so yes, that's honestly, one of the reasons why we haven't broken ground is because the conversations that we're having, we have to decide who the capacity is going to go to and whether or not we need to increase the size.
Benjamin Klieve: Got it. Okay. Very good. Well, best of luck wrapping up the year, we'll tell these ongoing dynamics, look forward to updates next year and I'll get back in queue.
Kathleen Valiasek: Thanks, Ben.
Craig Hurlbert: Thank you, Ben. Appreciate your question.
Operator: Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, at this time, I'm showing no further questions. I'd like to end the Q&A session and turn the call back to management for any closing comments.
Craig Hurlbert: Thank you. Kathy and I would like to thank everybody for joining us today, and we look forward to updating you on our progress as we further scale and grow Local Bounti's business in the coming quarters. Have a great day, everyone. Thank you.
Operator: Thank you. This does conclude today's conference call. We do thank you for your attention. You may now disconnect your lines.
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