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Earnings call: Brilliant Earth reports steady growth amidst market headwinds

EditorNatashya Angelica
Published 12/08/2024, 08:24 pm
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Brilliant Earth Group, Inc. (NASDAQ: BRLT), a leader in ethically sourced fine jewelry, reported its second quarter 2024 financial results, marking the company's 12th consecutive quarter of profitability. Despite a slight 4% decline in net sales year-over-year (YoY) to $105.4 million, the company's results were within its guidance range. Total orders saw a 4% increase YoY, bolstered by a significant 17% rise in repeat orders.

The average selling price also grew across their product assortment. With a strong gross margin of 60.8%, a 320 basis point increase YoY, and an adjusted EBITDA of $5.5 million, Brilliant Earth exceeded expectations. However, the company remains cautious, citing ongoing industry challenges and economic uncertainty, while maintaining confidence in its long-term growth strategy.

Key Takeaways

- Brilliant Earth's net sales saw a 4% YoY decline, but remained within guidance range.

- Total orders increased by 4% YoY, with repeat orders climbing by 17%.

- Average selling price grew YoY, indicating a focus on premium products.

- Gross margin improved significantly to 60.8%, a 320 basis point increase YoY.

- Adjusted EBITDA reached $5.5 million, surpassing expectations.

- The company plans to open three new showrooms and has set company-wide emission reduction targets.

- Despite a weaker consumer environment, Brilliant Earth revised its full-year net sales guidance to $410 million to $425 million and adjusted EBITDA guidance to $12 million to $16 million.

Company Outlook

- Brilliant Earth anticipates a weaker consumer environment, with expected headwinds in bridal and e-commerce for the second half of the year.

- Q3 net sales are projected to decline by 11% to 14% YoY.

- Q4 is expected to be stronger due to showroom performance, fine jewelry sales, and brand-building efforts.

- Full-year net sales guidance has been adjusted to $410 million to $425 million, with adjusted EBITDA guidance of $12 million to $16 million.

Bearish Highlights

- SG&A expenses increased to 59.7% of net sales, up from 56.4% in the same quarter the previous year.

- Q3 is expected to see a decrease in net sales by 11% to 14% YoY.

Bullish Highlights

- The company remains profitable for the 12th consecutive quarter.

- Gross margin showed a notable increase, and adjusted EBITDA exceeded expectations.

- The company has a strong cash position with $152 million and no net debt, having repurchased $160,000 of common stock in Q2.

Misses

- Net sales declined by 4% YoY, and a further decrease is expected in Q3.

Q&A Highlights

- CEO Beth Gerstein discussed engagement and diamond price trends, noting normalization in engagements and consumer caution.

- Gerstein highlighted consecutive quarter increases in average selling prices for bridal selections, emphasizing the maintenance of premium brand positioning.

- The company is using dynamic pricing algorithms to adjust to market conditions and avoid heavy discounting observed in the industry.

In conclusion, Brilliant Earth's financial performance demonstrates resilience in the face of a challenging market, with strategic focus on maintaining profitability and brand strength. The company's emphasis on an asset-light structure, data-driven decision-making, and commitment to ethical sourcing positions it for continued success in the luxury jewelry market.

InvestingPro Insights

Brilliant Earth Group, Inc. (NASDAQ: BRLT) continues to navigate a complex market landscape with strategic agility, as evidenced by their latest financial results. The company's focus on ethical sourcing and premium product offerings is reflected in their robust gross profit margins, which stood at 59.42% for the last twelve months as of Q2 2024. This aligns with the reported gross margin increase in their second quarter results, highlighting the company's ability to maintain profitability even as net sales experience a slight decline.

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This could suggest that investors are expecting higher earnings growth in the future, which is supported by an InvestingPro Tip that net income is expected to grow this year. However, the company's stock price has been volatile and is trading near its 52-week low, reflecting recent market sentiment and the challenges faced by the company.

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Full transcript - Brilliant Earth Group Inc (BRLT) Q2 2024:

Operator: Thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Brilliant Earth Second Quarter 2024 Earnings Call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, today's program is being recorded. And now I'd like to introduce your host for today's program, Colin Borland. Please go ahead.

Colin Borland: Thank you, and good afternoon, everyone. Welcome to Brilliant Earth second quarter 2024 earnings conference call. Joining me today are Beth Gerstein, our Chief Executive Officer; and Jeffrey Kuo, our Chief Financial Officer. During the call today, management will make certain forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results could differ materially. Please refer to our SEC filings for a description of the risks that could cause our actual performance and results could differ materially from those expressed or implied in these forward-looking statements. These forward-looking statements reflect our opinion only as of the date of this call, and we undertake no obligation to revise or publicly release the results of any revision to these forward-looking statements in light of new information or future events unless required by law. Also, during this call, management will refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures. A reconciliation of Brilliant Earth's non-GAAP measures to comparable GAAP measures is available in today's earnings release, which can be found on the Brilliant Earth's Investor Relations website. I'll now turn the call over to Beth.

Beth Gerstein: Good afternoon, and thank you for joining us today. I'm pleased to report that we continue to drive the progress of our strategic initiatives and deliver another quarter of profitability. This is our 12th consecutive quarter of profitability as a public company and something I'm very proud of. It's a testament to the talent and hard work of our incredible team, and I want to thank them for their dedication. As we are all seeing, we continue to observe challenges within the $300 billion jewelry industry, particularly highlighted by ongoing and increased promotional activity. Our ability to manage with both agility and discipline within this environment is reflected in our results that were within our net sales guidance and exceeded our profitability guidance for the quarter. I'll start with some highlights of our Q2 performance and update you on the progress we're making on our key priorities. Net sales declined 4% year-over-year to $105.4 million and were within our net sales guidance range for the quarter. Total orders increased by 4% year-over-year, while we had another strong quarter in repeat orders, which increased by 17% year-over-year. Average selling price grew year-over-year across our product assortment, including engagement rings, wedding bands and fine jewelry in Q2 as they did in Q1. Gross margin was 60.8% or a 320 basis point increase year-over-year, reflecting our continued position as a premium brand within the jewelry industry. Jeff will provide additional commentary on our gross margin expansion. Q2 adjusted EBITDA of $5.5 million or a 5.2% margin was ahead of expectations. Our exceptional profitability continues to demonstrate our strategic approach in balancing profitability while setting the stage for long-term growth. While the overall industry remains challenged, particularly in bridal and in e-commerce, we still maintain our expectations around a multiyear path to normalization. I spoke last quarter about the highly promotional environment in the jewelry industry with elevated discounting activity among peers. This persisted in Q2 and continues into Q3, but we remain focused on investing in quality growth and protecting our premium brands to deliver sustainable profitability and position us to take share in this highly fragmented industry. Let's talk about the quarter, starting with the distinctive high-quality products for which we are known. As I mentioned, this quarter saw average selling price growth across our assortment, including engagement rings, wedding bands and fine jewelry. Even as the engagement market was challenged, including for us, we saw outsized growth within our unique designs only available at Brilliant Earth, with our signature engagement ring collections, realizing bookings growth of 6% year-over-year in Q2. This quarter, we also amplified our bridal offering with the launch of our signature collections campaign that features an exquisite array of proprietary designs that celebrate exceptional craftsmanship and unique design. Drawing inspiration from the national world, each piece in the collection embodies the elegance and wonder of nature. In celebration of the craftmanship of the signature collection, we launched a campaign taking customers through each aspect of the in-house design process. We also launched our Fairmined Bridal Collection, which promotes economic development and environmental protection of small-scale mining communities. Turning to wedding and anniversary bands. We achieved record sales this quarter within both women's and men's offerings, resulting in double-digit bookings growth year-over-year. I'm particularly excited about the performance of our men's band assortments, which achieved 32% bookings growth year-over-year in Q2. Another high point for the quarter came from our continued growth in fine jewelry, where we saw another successful quarter of bookings growth at 29% year-over-year. As you know, this quarter encompasses two important gifting holidays of the year, Mother's Day and Father's Day, and we were well equipped for everyone's gifting needs. In fact, excluding the holiday shopping period in Q4, we had our biggest ever day of fine jewelry sales in our showrooms in the lead up to Mother's Day. And for the two weeks leading up to Father's Day, we more than doubled bookings year-over-year in our men's fine jewelry collection. While fine jewelry is still a small part of our business, we remain excited by the continued trajectory of our offering. As you have heard me say before, fine jewelry offers us an incredible opportunity to acquire lifelong customers outside of our core bridal business and to expand our reach among both first time and repeat purchasers. We continue to be encouraged by the performance of our 37 showrooms that continue to deliver on our seamless omnichannel strategy and provide our customers with an elevated approachable shopping experience. As an omnichannel brand, we know that a customer's journey can span multiple touch points and purchasing opportunities from shopping online to seeing products in store. For customers who have visited the showroom, we saw 9% bookings growth year-over-year in engagement rings, while wedding band and fine jewelry bookings growth year-over-year for showroom customers outpaced the total business. Through a combination of our seller showroom staff, continued enhancements to the customer experience and our diligent management of expenses, we continue to see strong post-opening metro uplift and compelling 4-wall EBITDA from our showrooms. As you know, we plan to open three more showroom locations this year, two in Boston and our first New York City ground location. And we've been busy this quarter continuously enhancing our existing fleet with refreshes in three of our showrooms, Washington, D.C., Denver and Philadelphia as well as overall strategic brand elevation focused on design, quality and elegance. We continue to bring our brands to life, both inside and outside our showrooms with brand and cultural moments across Earth Day, Mother's Day, Father's Day and Pride this quarter. Starting off the quarter with Earth Day, a holiday that directly aligns with our mission, we launched our -- The Future is Brilliant campaign where in celebration of Jane Goodall's 90th birthday, we invited the next generation of thought leaders and sustainability advocates to advance Brilliant Earth's leadership in sustainability and responsible sourcing. On that note, I'm excited to share that we have officially submitted our near-term and net zero company-wide emission reduction targets with the science-based targets initiative. An essential part of driving transformation in our supply chain and innovation in low-carbon technologies and production practices. We look forward to our targets being validated and shared with the public. As the quarter progressed, we reached the top gifting holiday of the quarter, Mother's Day, where our beauty and the gesture campaign in partnership with Influencer Tezza Barton, captured in an exclusive feature in People Magazine contributed to the strong performance I mentioned earlier. We also saw continued success in other brand moments this year. We had our most successful VIP bride campaign with Dance Moms alum Brooke Hyland generating over 18 million impressions. In closing, in light of ongoing industry and overall consumer headwinds, I'm proud of our results this quarter across our product innovation, omnichannel experience, continued brand momentum and resulting profitability. Since June, we've encountered a weaker-than-expected consumer environment, specifically for highly considered purchases. And we remain cautious for the rest of this year given recent headwinds and economic uncertainty. We recognize that this is a challenging period, and we are not immune to its impact. But as we have said before, we will focus on quality growth that protects and grows our brand, and we'll continue to take a balanced, agile and intentional approach to managing the business. We have conviction in our long-term strategy to drive growth and market share gains through brand awareness and relevance, an industry-leading omnichannel experience and through our differentiated and high-quality products. With that, I will hand the call over to Jeff, who will walk you through how this impacts our financial outlook for the year.

Jeffrey Kuo: Thanks, Beth, and good afternoon, everyone. As Beth mentioned, we're pleased to report a quarter where we continue to successfully drive our strategic initiatives, innovate, meet our top line expectations and far exceed our profitability expectations even in the face of industry headwinds. Let me take you through the details. Q2 net sales were $105.4 million, a decline of 4% year-over-year, which was within our guidance range. We drove a 4% increase in total orders year-over-year. We also had another quarter of strong repeat order growth, driving 17% growth in repeat orders year-over-year. This performance demonstrates the effectiveness of our customer acquisition and retention efforts, including the resonance of our brand with consumers as well as strong performance across our products. Average order value, or AOV, declined 8% year-over-year as we continue to broaden and diversify our overall assortment including in our fine jewelry collection, which, as you know, has lower price points than engagement rings. We saw strength in average selling price, or ASP, across our product collections. The ASP for our engagement rings, wedding rings and fine jewelry increased year-over-year in Q2 as they did in Q1, highlighting our success in maintaining our premium brand positioning. Q2 gross margin was 60.8%, which is a 320 basis point expansion over Q2 last year, principally driven by our premium brand and proprietary products, our price optimization engine, procurement efficiencies and our enhanced extended warranty program. This gross margin strength is particularly rewarding as we maintain our focus on our premium brand positioning in an environment where others continue to lean into discounting. We delivered a Q2 adjusted EBITDA of $5.5 million or a 5.2% adjusted EBITDA margin exceeding our guidance range. Our strong gross margin performance together with prudent management of our marketing spend and other operating expenses contributed to our strong profitability results this quarter. Q2 SG&A was 59.7% of net sales compared to 56.4% of net sales in Q2 2023, as we continue to balance making investments to drive long-term growth, with discipline in expense management to deliver profitability. Q2 adjusted SG&A was 55.7% of net sales compared to 50.6% of net sales in Q2 2023. Adjusted SG&A does not include items such as equity-based compensation, depreciation and amortization, showroom preopening expenses and other nonrecurring expenses. The principal driver of the year-over-year increase in adjusted SG&A in Q2 was from growth in showroom expenses, including the annualization of expenses related to showrooms opened last year. For Q2 marketing expenses, we continued our approach from last quarter, maintaining a disciplined approach to our second quarter marketing spend, resulting in a slight leverage of approximately 20 basis points as a percentage of net sales compared to Q2 last year. We continue to make strategic investments to drive brand awareness and support key initiatives such as growth in fine jewelry balanced with capturing marketing efficiencies while maintaining overall profitability. As I pointed out during our last two earnings calls, we are aiming to keep quarterly marketing spend for the year at a similar percentage of net sales compared to the 2023 average and Q2 aligned with that expectation while still delivering net sales within our guidance. For the second quarter, employee cost as a percentage of net sales were higher by approximately 310 basis points as adjusted year-over-year principally driven by new showroom employees, including the annualization of employees in our new showrooms. We continue to manage these expenses in a disciplined and responsible manner. Other G&A as a percentage of net sales increased by approximately 220 basis points as adjusted year-over-year as we continue to prudently invest in our business. This includes increased rent and showroom expenses, other costs to support our growth and investments in technology. Our data-driven capital-efficient and inventory-light operating model continues to provide competitive advantages. We were able to leverage this model to decrease our year-over-year inventory by 3% despite the expansion of our showroom footprint and our significant growth in fine jewelry. Our lower-risk agile inventory model and strong balance sheet continue to differentiate us from the rest of the industry. We ended the second quarter with approximately $152 million in cash, which reflects a year-over-year increase of approximately $2.6 million even after expanding our showroom footprint by 15% and paying down over $3 million in principal balance on our term loan. Our ability to generate cash further differentiates us from many others in the industry and highlights the benefits of our asset-light data-driven business model. In addition, we continue to maintain a strong balance sheet with no net debt. Our financial strength allows us to continue to make prudent investments in the business to drive long-term growth. In Q2, we repurchased approximately $160,000 of our common stock. This takes our total common stock repurchase to approximately $260,000 in total to date. Our strong balance sheet provides the ability to strategically seize value-creation opportunities, including when we see an opportunity to buy back our common stock. We intend to continue using this program strategically while balancing our overall investment decisions, including consideration of factors such as trading volumes and our public float. As we look ahead to the second half, we are seeing a weaker-than-expected consumer environment and headwinds in bridal and e-commerce that are somewhat greater than what we observed earlier in the year. For Q3, we had a softer start in engagement rings while continuing to have solid growth in fine jewelry and wedding and anniversary bands. We also continue to see strong repeat purchase behavior. For Q3, we expect net sales to be down 11% to 14% year-over-year in light of current market conditions. We expect Q3 adjusted EBITDA margin to be from breakeven to low single digits as a percentage of net sales as we dynamically manage operating expenses, including marketing spend, to deliver profitability while making strategic investments in the business for the long term. We do expect that Q4 will be a stronger quarter than Q3 from a top line perspective even though we do anticipate some headwinds in bridal and e-commerce in the fourth quarter. As we have discussed previously, we expect that engagements will continue on their gradual path to normalization. We also expect other key drivers of Q4 performance will include realizing uplift from our showrooms, the continued strong performance of fine jewelry, the fact that seasonally Q4 is the biggest quarter for fine jewelry sales and our ongoing brand-building efforts, including during the holidays. For the year, we now expect that our net sales will be in the range of $410 million to $425 million. Our adjusted EBITDA will be in the range of $12 million to $16 million as we continue to manage the business for profitability even in the face of industry headwinds. In closing, our premium brand and differentiated business model, including our data-driven decision-making, seamless omnichannel platform and asset-light structure demonstrate our ability to deliver profitability and achieve our strategic and financial objectives in a variety of different environments. Our performance in the second quarter reinforces our ability to execute and capitalize on the opportunities that drive long-term sustainable and profitable growth. With that, I'll turn the call back over to the operator for questions.

Operator: [Operator Instructions] And our first question comes from the line Oliver Chen from TD Cowen. Your question, please.

Thomas Nass: Hi Beth and Jeff. This is Tom on for Oliver. Would be great if you could talk about the nature of bridal compares ahead and any opportunities for share growth. Just curious as to what gives you confidence in this multiyear recovery path?

Beth Gerstein: Great. Tom, thanks for the question. So just to provide a little bit more context in bridal. In Q2, what we saw was that bridal was down in the low double digits, and we have seen that slightly worsen since then. And we do have some really nice positive indicators. One of the metrics that I mentioned was around our signature collection. We just had a really great campaign promoting the distinctive design that has really been a pillar of our brand for the majority of our existence. And that has had really nice growth. We saw 6% year-over-year growth in signature. We've also seen nice growth within our showroom, so that plus 9% for engagement rings for customers who have visited our showroom, just gives us a lot of conviction in the omnichannel model that we have. What we've seen recently is as the demand has become more soft, we've seen one of the most promotional environments that we've experienced. And our approach is to not chase unprofitable growth. We want to make sure we're growing in a healthy and sustainable way. So we're really thinking about how do we drive marketing leverage and how do we invest outside of bridal, where we've been incredibly strong with our fine jewelry, our wedding -- our anniversary band collection as well. So it's really taking a more diversified approach as we've been doing really since we've started these calls and seeing a lot of success there in attracting new and repeat customers.

Thomas Nass: Great. Thanks. And then a follow-up on the strength you're seeing across income cohorts and how that informs your approach to price in the future? And then additionally, curious as to how Brilliant is leveraging its customer data platform to create new styles and proprietary designs that resonate well in this environment?

Beth Gerstein: Yes, absolutely. So maybe I can start a little bit with our -- how we think about price. And I think you've heard us mention in the past that we have a pretty sophisticated pricing engine, which is quite dynamic across different parts of the assortment. We're constantly optimizing for margin, and that allows us to capture demand as we see it across different price points. So I would just say that, that's ongoing activity and something we're continuing to invest in. And as we see parts of the assortment perform even better, then we're able to introduce new designs very quickly. So part of our competitive advantage is that product design and differentiation and the ability to launch products really quickly, leverage the customer data that we have and make sure that across different price points that we have a very productive collection. We're not aiming to have an endless collection. We really want to make sure it's curated its trend forward. And I think that's part of how we've been able to be so successful in fine jewelry is marrying that with our brand initiatives to appeal to our customer base.

Thomas Nass: Thank you very much.

Operator: Thank you. [Operator Instructions] And our next question comes from the line of Ashley Owens from KeyBanc Capital Markets. Your question, please.

Ashley Owens: Hi. Good afternoon. So just want to start, you mentioned the highly considered purchases of some of the rationale contributing to ongoing softness in the jewelry industry. Bridal is obviously still in a period of normalization. I guess with that, just curious if you're seeing people elongating their decision time for making these purchases or also anything that you can maybe update or share on engagement trends that you're seeing?

Beth Gerstein: Yes, absolutely. So what I would say is we're still seeing really nice traffic across all of our channels. I think we are seeing, though, overall, that customers are just being a little bit more hesitant and that decision time is being elongated. So I think that is something that we're seeing and the consumer environment has slowed down a little bit, has been more uncertainty and the way that that's materializing is across that more considered purchase.

Ashley Owens: Okay. Got you. And then just quickly, rate of gross margin, obviously, another solid quarter progress here. Starting to hover around that 60% range now in 2Q, did come above that, which is one of the range you highlighted for the medium term, long term. Just curious if your thoughts have changed there at all? Or should we still be thinking of kind of that high, high 50s kind of level going forward?

Jeffrey Kuo: Sure. I can speak to that. So as you point out, in our midterm -- medium-term outlook, we have highlighted that high 50s percent is our gross margin target. And I think as you know, that's -- there's always a dynamic balancing of how we're thinking about things with the price optimization engine to drive that right combination of top line growth and capturing gross margin percentage with the ultimate goal to drive as many gross profit dollars as we can. We were pleased to see an outperformance in the 60s this past quarter. I think our medium-term outlook still does point to a gross margin expectation in that high 50s as a percentage of sales. And we're always going to be dynamically balancing and looking at the data that we're seeing from consumer preferences, input costs, market conditions and things like that to drive that right combination. So the medium term hasn't changed. We're glad to see the performance that we did in Q2 and we'll continue as we always have been, to be agile and dynamic.

Ashley Owens: Great, I'll pass it over. Thanks.

Operator: Thank you. And our next question comes from the line Dylan Carden from William Blair. Your question, please.

Dylan Carden: Thank you. I'm just wondering if you have a read on kind of the engagement origination, I guess people getting engaged broadly, how that's trending now and as related your business. And then one question we get a lot increasingly and some of that you just see constant headlines about or just diamond prices, both lab and natural. Is that kind of code to what you mean by promotional? Or how does that show up in your business? I guess prices might be more in line with historical rates, but they certainly come in dramatically over the last two years. And I just -- I know you have dynamic just-in-time inventory model, but how that might play into your business, if you're holding price in the industry is collapsing around you. Anything -- any color there would be very helpful. Thank you.

Beth Gerstein: Sure. So I can start with just our read on engagement. And we've talked about this multiyear path to normalization coming off of these elevated peaks over '21, '22. So I still think we're in a normalizing situation. I think that's exacerbated by just some of the consumer headwinds in terms of the overall environment for highly considered purchases. And I think that is just causing more consumers to hold off and be a little bit more cautious overall as they're thinking about the engagement occasion. So that's probably the most that I can say about that. As it relates to how we think about pricing, the -- what's important to note is, in Q2, we're coming off of our second consecutive quarter or second quarter of ASP increases. So we're continuing to see prices for consumers increased in the bridal selection that we have. And in addition to that, we're making sure that we are reinforcing the premium brand positioning. We think that we are leaders in the space as it relates to sustainability and innovation just generally. And we are, I think, as a result, making sure that we're optimizing in terms of margin. So we do have a dynamic pricing algorithm. We're constantly making sure that we are adjusting to market conditions, but we're also considering our overall brand position, and that's across both lab and natural. And it's important to us that as customers are shopping for a budget that they shop for brand first, and that's really what we're leading with.

Dylan Carden: So I guess that's kind of the underlying question. I'm just trying to unpack the term promotional. I mean as you're seeing prices come in and you maintain margin and ASP, do you think that, that's hurting you in the consideration? And maybe we'll hold with that in the short term. But is that part of this right now?

Beth Gerstein: I mean when we talk about promotion, we're also talking about just heavy discounting. So you're seeing 10%, 20%, 30% off, that's the type of discounting that we're seeing, which is much heavier than what we're typically -- what we've typically observed in the past. So for us, it's really about how do we use pricing as a lever to make sure we're maintaining margin, but also considering that we're a premium brand.

Dylan Carden: Okay. Thank you.

Operator: Thank you. And this does conclude the question-and-answer session of today's program. I'd like to hand the program back to Beth Gerstein, CEO for any further remarks.

Beth Gerstein: Great. Well, thank you all for joining us for our Q2 call, our earnings call. Look forward to talking to you all in the next quarter.

Operator: Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for your participation in today's conference. This does conclude the program. You may now disconnect. Good day.

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